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Post by yoursTruly » 05 Nov 2013 00:26

Latest....

"From Silom to Sanam Luang, tens of thousands come out on Bangkok's streets to air their opposition to the blanket amnesty bill on Monday, as the army chief calls for the prime minister to find a solution to end the political crisis..."

http://bangkokpost.com/news/local/37804 ... et-amnesty
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Post by Mike Parker » 05 Nov 2013 13:25

If Yingluk hadn't got the message before she sure has now. Its one thing convincing the uneducated and poor and keeping them in your pocket but its a totally different story trying hoodwink people with a real understanding of where this country is headed if you bypass the legitimate judicial system.Not often you see Academics, Hospital Doctors and staff, Students, Business owners ,coming together with the general public being totally as one. Yingluk's tears yesterday won't convince too many.

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Post by bsb » 06 Nov 2013 07:41

Mike, its gotta be tuff on you in chaing mai...surrounded by a sea of red

I remember a conversation we had awhile ago you wife was deffiantly not pro toxin....whats the temperature up there nowadays with all this BS going on?
last inventory I took here I think was one vote for the convict

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Post by Mike Parker » 06 Nov 2013 14:40

Chiang Mai is Shinawatra heartland and will never change. The local workers in our village all staunch Reds ,poor as church mice, and still believing they will be taken to the promised land. Last kerfuffle we had a 70 year old yellow shirt supporter was beaten to death with an iron bar almost of front of the police station in CM..no charges were laid. Its actually quite dangerous up north to make your feelings public so the anti Thaksin folk keep quiet

You basically have a divided country north of Bangkok is red and south the other colour whatever is currently in vogue.Even in Bangkok in a taxi mention something that is not favourable to Toxin and you will be dumped on the side of the road.

Yes the temp is rising but all depends which way the army want to handle it.The Amnesty Bill is dead in the water but that will not be accepted by PT ,UDD etc.

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Post by yoursTruly » 08 Nov 2013 02:06

The situation in Thailand is like the U.S., where rich people get the ignorant poor (eg The Tea Party) to vote them into office, so they can in turn continue to rob the poor, and everyone else. So Taksin buys his way into office with 500 Baht payoffs to northern voters, so he can then steal millions in government contracts. I'll bet the yellow shirts aren't free from this, either, just as the Democrats in American are almost as bad as the Republicans.

To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln: It's depressingly easy to fool most of the people most of the time.
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Post by yoursTruly » 08 Nov 2013 02:25

Account of a recent robbery by a taxi driver in Bangkok...

http://www.reddit.com/r/Thailand/commen ... ith_a_gun/

I usually think of Bangkok as a pretty safe place... :( but I use the street smarts I've picked from US cities anyway. It sounds like this guy could have been a bit more careful.
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Post by yoursTruly » 08 Nov 2013 02:44

Trip to Mae Salong, Thailand - Opium, Tea, and Sunsets

Found this post on Reddit. Some nice pics. I only went there once, about 10 years ago. It's right on the Myanmar border, and there's a big trade going in jade. I saw some New York Jewish types haggling with locals who'd bring stuff over from Burma for them to examine--pretty funny. There was also a huge ramshackle jail for illegal immigrants, all squatting around in a big room more like a zoo exhibit than a jail...

http://tielandtothailand.com/trip-to-mae-salong/
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Post by yoursTruly » 08 Nov 2013 03:25

Thailand looks to introduce tourist entry fee in a bid to improve 'quality' of visitors

Visitors heading to Thailand for some New Year sunshine could find themselves charged around £40 per family upon arriving in the country by plane.

Thai tourist authorities are said to be considering charging every tourist a 500baht (around £10) fee upon landing for visitors staying for a duration longer than three days. If the bill is passed then fees could be introduced as early as January 1st although travellers crossing land borders into the country would only pay a 30 baht (around 60pence) tax.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/artic ... itors.html
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Post by bsb » 08 Nov 2013 09:08

yours truely...seems to me that the rich people Obrainless got the real ignorant and poor to vote him into office and he like thaksin screws the country all he can..and pays them back with perks..such as the clunker trade in program which thaksin copied with the new car tax scam...the only thing it did in america was remove 5 million obama stickers off the road...and in thailand got PT in office and filled up banks repo lots..some day people will realize there ain't no santa claus...the government can give nothing to the poor untill it robs someone else of it, except of course the corrupt politicians

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Post by yoursTruly » 09 Nov 2013 01:23

bsb wrote:yours truely...seems to me that the rich people Obrainless got the real ignorant and poor to vote him into office and he like thaksin screws the country all he can..and pays them back with perks..such as the clunker trade in program which thaksin copied with the new car tax scam...the only thing it did in america was remove 5 million obama stickers off the road...and in thailand got PT in office and filled up banks repo lots..some day people will realize there ain't no santa claus...the government can give nothing to the poor untill it robs someone else of it, except of course the corrupt politicians
Well, I agree with you that a lot of silly Americans were suckered into voting for Obama. Nobody really knew *anything* about him unless they dug around a bit: for instance, his first job out of college was working for a CIA front. Take a look at this link:

http://prorev.com/2009/01/strange-rise-of-obama.html

and he betrayed the Illinois Black Caucus as soon as they'd outlived their purpose (getting him mainstream in Illinois). So, way before 2007, he'd established himself as an opportunist...

But most people, including many in BS, thought he was the second coming of Christ: "Oh, my God, a Black Man as President! Things are sure going to change now!"...Oh, God, look at where he came from: Harvard. Nobody gets out of Harvard without becoming part of the "elite", or servants of them--the people who *own* America. (As George Carlin says: "We don't have leaders. We have owners.")

So Obama goes on to appoint Monsanto CEOs to the FDA, ex Big Bank lawyers to the Justice Dept (Holder), architects of the Financial Crisis (Larry Summers, another Harvard big wig) to be his economic advisor, on and on...

It's the same old shit. You'll never get anyone in the final two (running for Prez) who represent the People. They're always corporate pawns. As Boss Tweed (famously corrupt Tammany Hall politician) once said:

"I don't care who does the electing, as long as I get to do the nominating."
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Of course you and I don't come from the same political culture (you from Texas (?) and me from Massachusetts), and I believe government can do some good (as long as it hasn't been "captured", as ours has). For example, government is the only entity big enough to stand up against the tyranny of big business (eg big banks and big corporations). They're the only one big enough to negotiate fair prices with the drug companies, for instance--rather than have the drug companies charge as much as they can get.

Government gets you such socialism as public schools, fire and police depts, the post office, and a Social Security system, which is basically "old age insurance". Right now all of these things are under attack in America, a sign that government is being run by people who want to squeeze every last buck from every American until we're all on the streets. These people are apolitical in the sense that pirates are apolitical. We don't have a democracy, we have a plutocracy or a kleptocracy.

George Carlin sums it all up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acLW1vFO-2Q
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Post by yoursTruly » 09 Nov 2013 01:47

As John Dewey said: "Politics is the shadow cast on society by big business."

Government was originally formed to protect the common people from the abuses of concentrated power (eg by Kings or the very rich), and politics was born with it.
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Post by yoursTruly » 12 Nov 2013 23:52

FORBES: Thailand's Bubble Economy Is Heading For A 1997-Style Crash

In April 2013, Thailand’s former Deputy Minister of Finance, Supachai Panitchpakdi, warned that there were “signs of a bubble in the Thai economy, with massive fund inflows heading mostly to the property sector.” He further warned against excessive bank lending, and said that some sectors’ asset prices exceed reasonable levels.

Boonchai Bencharongkul, one of the three aforementioned tycoons, said “I think the current situation is worrisome. As one of those who had such an experience, I can smell it now. People are rushing and competing to buy condos while more and more people are driving Ferraris. These are the same things we saw before the 1997 crisis occurred.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jessecolomb ... e-crash/3/

(the Baht sunk to 50B/$1 USD in 1998)
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As protests rage, Thailand admits its rice subsidy scheme was perhaps a terrible idea

Thailand’s ruinous rice subsidy program, which buys rice from farmers at rates 40% higher than the market, has been widely acknowledged as a disaster—by everyone, that is, except the Thai government. But in a new report by the International Monetary Fund, Thai officials finally admit that the populist policy may need fixing.

The program was designed to curry favor among the country’s rural voters, but it has taken a heavy toll on rice exports and incurred massive public costs—a whopping $21 billion since 2011. Now government officials have “acknowledged the [IMF] staff’s concerns about the effectiveness and transparency of the scheme, and suggested that a reduction in the pledging prices or limits on the amount of purchase might be needed to ensure the sustainability of the policy.”

...However, there’s a much easier way to accomplish the same goal: Simply cut the poor voters a government check.

http://qz.com/146383/as-protests-rage-t ... ible-idea/
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Post by yoursTruly » 16 Nov 2013 07:24

Kratom may be taken off narcotics list

Justice minister pushes for legalisation of the herb, citing medicinal properties

The Office of the Narcotics Control Board (ONCB) is responding positively to the proposed legalisation of kratom (Mitragyna speciosa), which is currently on the narcotics list.

The ONCB will be meeting with the Food and Drug Administration, the Public Health Ministry and the National Police Office next week to discuss whether kratom should be removed from the list.

Available records show that Thailand is the only country that describes kratom as a narcotic.

"We will listen to the opinions of all relevant parties," ONCB secretary-general Pongsapat Pongcharoen said yesterday.

Justice Minister Chaikasem Nitisiri, who is pushing for the legalisation, said he grew up in Bangkok's Thon Buri area where kratom was grown and used, and he had never encountered anybody going into a drug-crazed stupor from its consumption.

"In fact, kratom was used as a traditional medicine in the past," he said, adding that he did not wish to promote the use of kratom, but believed it may distract people from using harmful drugs like methamphetamine or crystal-meth.

"Caffeine in coffee and energy drinks is also more addictive than kratom," he added.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/nationa ... 13650.html

From Wikipedia...

"In Thailand, kratom was first scheduled for control in 1943 under the Kratom Act. At the time, the government was levying taxes from users and shops involved in the opium trade. Because of the increasing opium costs, many users were switching to kratom to manage their withdrawal symptoms. However, the launch of the Greater East Asia War in 1942 and declining revenues from the opium trade pushed the Thai government into action to curb and suppress competition in the opium market by making kratom illegal."
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Post by yoursTruly » 19 Nov 2013 02:16

Well, I don't know Heike in any depth, but she's always seemed nice enough to me when she's been up to Doris' to give (the poor departed) Tutu his shots and creams. I suppose it's natural for a lesbian to be a bit critical of men (especially real ball scratching, smelly men like us who drink too much and light our farts on fire whenever we get the chance!!! YEAH!! :twisted: ). Goes with the lesbian territory, I guess...It's easier to get along if at all possible, and it would be a drag to have running wars with people you refuse to talk to or turn around to go back home when you see them at the bar, especially in BS which is a pretty small place. (like some of the claustrophobic roommate situations of our youth. Ugh)...

There's a certain American friend of mine, whom I love dearly, but it seems he has a list of people he won't talk to or inhabit the bar with. They've all offended him in some way. Thin skin. Sad( and inconvenient, I would think.) Still, he comes back every year for more.

<Oops, my bad. This post is ancient, and I didn't notice. No doubt things have changed since then>
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